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that a man is physically intimidat intimidated, intimate partner, a woman, even in a case if a man is intimidated or beating a woman and threatened to use a firearm in many states, the man is able to keep the firearm due to efforts by the gun lobby. >> look at what's at stake in terms of gun death for women. 90% killed by someone they know. 2010. 574 shot to death by a husband, ex-husband, or boyfriend. there's 574 right there. a woman is two times more likely to be shot to death by male intimates than being killed by in any other way by a stranger. the nra scenario is the stranger that comes in, i, a woman, have to have the assault rifle near the bed as gail trotter said to kill the stranger that comes in the house. much more likely it is going to be someone the woman was intimately involved with.
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>> when the nra circles pro-gun forums, i never see discussion of domestic violence for women at risk by intimate partners with firearms. it is a scenario a woman needs to defend herself, it is a rare case a woman is in position to do that. it is more likely a woman is subject to intimidation or violence by an intimate partner using a firearm against them. monday of this week, lawrence, a man in arizona was convicted of manslaughter for shooting his girlfriend in the face with an ar-15 rifle, the same rifle used in newtown and used in aurora. so these are not hypotheticals, these are real cases. >> why should they give up rights if they haven't been convicted, people give up passports all the time before they're convicted of things. >> the nra is not interested in anything that will have citizens, in particular men, relinquishing their firearms for almost any reason. the hypocrisy, wayne la pierre
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says those that use those guns should be in jail, but those that use them to attack, the nra is on the other side. it is a great hypocrisy, will hurt them in years to come. >> thanks, frank. >> thank you, lawrence. "the ed show" is next. >> good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show." i'm michael eric dyson in for ed schultz. president obama makes his first trip to israel and gets caught at an open mike. the love gov makes a comeback in south carolina, and march madness hits the white house. but tonight, i start with washington dropping the ball on protecting our children. this is "the ed show," and as ed would say, let's get to work. it was supposed to change everything. the massacre at sandy hook
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elementary school was brutal and horrific, it shook us to our core but out of the tragedy, there was a hope something could get done. we as americans believed this was the event that would prompt our lawmakers to finally act, yet this is the cover of today's "new york daily news," shame on us. the faces of the 20 murdered children of the elementary school students in newtown, connecticut, surrounding those words. this is how a paper in the nation's largest city is reacting to news of the assault weapons ban being dropped. it was announced tuesday that the ban, introduced by dianne feinstein of california, was getting dropped from a larger gun safety package because the
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votes weren't there. senate majority leader harry reid, it's about the math. >> right now, her amendment, has less than 40 votes. that's not 60. >> yet looking at the latest polling, this is something the majority of americans really he cannot even get democrats as the new yorker put it. this wasn't a close call. it was a body blow. standard feinstein vows to keep fighting. >> this is very important to me. i will not lay down and play dead. i think the american people have said and every single public poll that they support this kind of legislation. it's aimed to protect children, to protect schools and malls, not to give me a vote on this would be a major betrayal of
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trust. >> that last point, the reed-mack told feinstein that it could be offered as an amendment at a later time. we were given some rare good news from a state with a significant history with a gun violence. the governor of colorado signed into law some of the toughest gun safety measures in the country. >> the loss expand background checks to include purchases and transfers between private parties and on-line sales. it closes a loophole that had exempted fire arms sales from background checks. the laws limit the size of ammunitions to 50 rounds. >> even that progress was tainted by tragedy. they signed legislation hours after a member of his own cabinet was shot dead. he was gunned down in his own home last night. he was fatally shot after answering his door. police are still looking for the
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killer. been warned about loss of clemens and stressed the importance of moving forward. >> the cabinet is good as we move forward with our work. that is the kind of thing that tom would have understood and would have supported. >> republicans in that state say they will fight the new gun laws. >> it proves we have the gun control governor in colorado. the myth is busted. no one can any longer think of him as a moderate democrat. >> today marks the eighth month anniversary of the shooting rampage in aurora, colorado. the mother of one of the victims killed told the colorado governor, you have given us a real gift today, but where is the give for the families who lost loveland's in connecticut? in tucson, arizona, or in chicago? gun violence continues to take its toll across this country.
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millions of families continue to wait. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight to the question, will we see any major gun safety laws passed in this congress? 67622, or go to our blog at. i will bring you the results later on. i am joined by barbara lee-mack and jim should toasty as well as jackie spirit of california. welcome to the show. >> let me start with you. how disappointed are you that this assault weapons ban was dropped today? >> i am extremely disappointed because these weapons of war belong on the combat field, not on the streets of america. i am pleased that senator feinstein is such a fighter. we will continue to fight until this gets done. people have to hold members of congress accountable.
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now is the time. it's a wake-up call, and people have to come to washington and insist that there be accountability to gun control and safety legislation. >> in light of what congressman lee says, do we hold congress responsible for getting into and advocating the fight? >> the headline, the front cover of the newspaper that said shame on us, should be a rallying cry of the american people with overwhelming majority wanting background checks, anti-trafficking bills, and, yes, they want a ban on assault weapons. if they don't rise up, the nra will win again. it's really a choice for the american people right now whether or not they are going to call members of the senate, house of representatives, or if they will let the nra holds all hostage to the gun lobby. >> sure.
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if you can't get an assault weapons ban now, when in the world will we get one? >> we will not wait for the next, massive killing in this country for us to get religion on this issue. senator feinstein, i was with her last night, and while she was very disappointed in what she heard from majority leader reed-mack, she was very clear about taking this to it's full and complete resolution. all of us have got to say to our colleagues in congress that fear is not an option. fear of not being read elected, we are paralyzed right now. we have to stop it. >> is there anything that congress can pass to curb the piling -- violence? there is nothing that can be done that would protect our children in the vast majority of america, do you agree with that? >> i refuse to believe that. i am hoping that we will pass
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some version of a repeal of a writer that has been attached to the appropriations bill. all of us are trying to work to repeal the amendment, which means that it would make it easier for law enforcement to conduct gun tracing efforts. right now they are preventing so many ways. i think there are some measures. uphill battle, but we have to ask the american people that this is a wake-up call. we have to rally around, ensuring that your members of congress are accountable to what you believe will provide for safety for our children. >> when this newtown, connecticut, this situation happened, they were horrified and felt that this was the tipping point. this was the signal moment that something had to be done and politicians vowed on every side
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to do so. here we are later, and it seems to be all that momentum has been lost. how do we galvanize the american people to defend our children and others in this country who are victims of gun violence? >> i don't think the battle is over by any means, and i don't believe the enthusiasm is gone. almost every day i am part of a meeting or conference call on ending the violence in passing this legislation. you asked if it made a difference. there are studies that show that states, the 14 states that have background checks on handguns, that there is a decrease in gun trafficking and a shooting of women by intimate partners. suicides by guns are decrease by 20%. we know that passing this legislation actually does work. the american people, i really don't think, are going to give up. i know that's true. >> in your district, what do you
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hear from the people there? are they fed up, do they want you to take action? as you take a straw poll and get the heat index, what do you here? >> in my district, they want us to get a steal backbone. they want us to speak on behalf of the people. i did a gun buyback just a few weeks ago in my district, the second lowest crime rate in the state. we collected 685 guns, 24 assault weapons, magazines and silencers and one street sweeper. if those are the guns in the communities, it's time to rethink whether we need them in our homes of gun violence in homes when you have a gun. you are more likely to be killed an intimate partner then you are by a stranger. a number people said to me, i asked them why they're giving up their guns. i have small kids, this is
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something that came to me from my grandfather. we are all rethinking whether we need guns in our homes. >> let me ask you this question. the you talk to your colleagues about this issue? they believe we don't need to do something after the tragedy in newtown? >> i think it's at their peril that they ignore this issue. 91 percent say that they want universal background checks. it's pretty hard to resist that. i also want to say that i think, i know there is a gender gap, moms all over this country who identify as republicans or democrats or independents do not want to be fearful when their children go to school or to the movies. they are ready to rise up and demand that we do something about this. >> there is an organization called months demand action. they were here, phenomenal women that came here after the tragedy
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in newtown. these were republican, independent and democratic women. they want to make sure that action is taken. they have to hold their representatives once again accountable. republicans, democrats and independents. as we talk to republicans, they may be reticent to move forward. they don't want to do it. the gun lobby is alive and well, but believe you me, the power of the people and the voices of the people will ultimately prevail. >> i also think we demand a vote take place. the man that votes take place on the house and senate floor. no one should be cushioned from having to take a stand. we are going to wait until the connecticut effect wears off, that is what has happened in their mind. we cannot let that happen. we cannot let the 20 little coffins that passed through that town and the six a billups who
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lost their lives be lost for no reason. we have to keep it alive. >> tell the viewers, because i don't think they know, do you in congress who work with each other see each other every day? is there a daily transaction between you all? >> not really. >> you are hearing a silence in response to that question because it really hasn't -- there has not been an across the aisle conversation about guns. i know there are some republicans that if they had their druthers, would vote against the nra and would stand up for the people in their district. we are hoping that they will find courage from the people who are contacting them. i hope they hear from them every day. if they're not, shame on them. >> what about the social situations.
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you have a drink, coffee, is there any kind of transaction -- it's amazing to me we don't have any transactions, conversations between congress people across the aisle just as human beings. my god, this is a national travesty here. do you have any kind of conversation? >> this environment is not conducive to that type of conversation for a lot of reasons, as you know. the real debate will begin when some of these bills begin to be debated in congress. we have a task force here on our side. i am on the appropriations committee, and we will have a debate as we try to repeal the amendment. we will see some dialogue take place, but it should be in the public view. people should hear what their representatives are saying. >> i do know that mike thompson has been talking to republicans. i just don't know what the report is.
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he has definitely gone across the aisle. >> i have no doubt you are reaching across the aisle. i hope something is coming back, maybe some conversation. >> we hope so. >> thank you so much for your time tonight. remember to answer the question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts on twitter @ed show and on facebook. the president faces the media in israel. the drumbeat for war in syria gets louder. that is next. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you engineer a true automotive breakthrough? ♪ you give it bold styling, unsurpassed luxury and nearly 1,000 improvements. the redesigned 2013 glk. see your authorized mercedes-benz dealer for exceptional offers through mercedes-benz financial services.
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with the fresh scent of gain. thanks for staying with us. conservative critics blast president obama on israeli policy. the loudest critics fell silent when he arrived in israel this morning. this is his first trip to israel as president, and today he promised on wavering commitment to prime minister netanyahu. they are building a consensus with the opposition. president obama got caught on tape joking about it. >> david: beautiful day.
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good to see you. how are you? good to see you. thank you so much. >> good to see you. >> how are you, my friend. good to see you. >> good seeing you. >> president obama did try to bring some republicans with him on this trip. a political reports that air kantor got it, but he was too busy. there were also busy today watching developments in neighboring syria, where rebels claimed their own president used chemical weapons on a village in the north. the attack killed 31 people, and the government sealed off the area to keep out journalists and international observers. president obama says he is not sure. >> the use of chemical weapons against the syrian people would be a serious and tragic mistake. they must understand they will be held accountable for the use
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of chemical weapons or their transfer to terrorists. >> netanyahu agrees with president obama on syria. conservatives tried to use our relationship with israel to grab votes. they accused president obama of not getting it, of being dangerous. some called him the most anti-israel president in american history. >> i want to thank you for the investment you have made in our relationship and in strengthening the friendship and alliance between our two countries. i am absolutely convinced that the president is determined to prevent iran from getting nuclear weapons. the president has reaffirmed more than any other president that israel has a duty to defend itself. it is a profound honor to host you, the leader of the free world and this historic time in our capital. mr. president, welcome to israel. >> let me start with you.
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we see these conciliatory gestures being offered by prime minister netanyahu, but that is different than the lecture that he gave to obama in his own digs in the white house. what accounts for the shift here? is it that he is on his own terrain, or is this a genuine change of attitude on netanyahu's part? >> the two sides have to begin thinking about what happens next. during his first term, president obama was focused on ending two wars. now he faces two different challenges, iran could be potential nuclear capability or what happens next in syria. both offer challenges that israel also faces in and work existential way. there are of common mind.
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the key question is, what happens next, whether it's on iran, syria or ultimately the conflict? >> can we afford a symbolic trip? there is a lot at stake, what the region is going through, what the partners of israel have seen as necessary to protect itself, what the palestinian response has been to two-state solutions. how we figure our way out of here, and how does the president respond? >> the president is finding out that it's very difficult to lower expectations on a visit by the president of the united states. i think that the logic behind the trip, there are a few things. the president understands that he did not attempt to make a connection with the israeli people during his first term in a way that he perhaps should have. given what you mentioned, these
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are things, issues on which if they are to move forward and make these tough choices, he needs the israeli people on his side and needs them to understand that the united states and that he understands the situation they are in and has their backs. >> sure. robin, are peace talks a possibility in his second term? giving the advance of a post presidential term like jimmy carter when you create that kind of space, is there a possibility by he can do that? >> probably third on the list. the interesting thing today is that president obama and prime minister yet not who have not agreed. but two talked today about a year or so away from having to make some kind of strategic decision. they both faced the very sudden
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emergence of syria and the potential or possible use of chemical weapons. that has risen to the top of the agenda. given the fact there are different palestinian factions that are not in agreement about talking to israel, that looks more further down the road. >> do you think they used chemical weapons, or is that deployed by some forces that have at stake the division between israel and the united states and the substance of fashion that would create tension, hostility and nothing would get done? >> i don't know. there is logic to what you just said. that is something that the syrian government would take seriously. back to something that robin just said, clearly, what we saw here today at the press conference was benjamin netanyahu moving much closer to the president's position on this. there has been tension on this.
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he sees the threat of iran in a much more immediate way. he is trying to pull the united states to his view. that lecture in the oval office. i think what we saw today is a prime minister that recognizes that the president has been reelected and that it's in his interest to ease the tensions ayon i was in israel, syria, as much of a problem as the nuclear program is, the most immediate threat was syria. >> the fog of war, having covered the 12 wars, is always difficult in those initial stages. there are lots of accusations. the british have announced they are sending chemical weapons testing kits to be able to verify what may have happened. it is clear that if either side used chemical weapons, it will be the game-changer, whether it's in terms of what the
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outside world is prepared to do against the regime of president or in how much support it gives the rebels. we are not there yet. we all have to sit back. the challenge is that syria, as we went to see what happens with the diplomatic solution on the wrong and what the other alternatives are, you have these extraordinary, existential challenges to the syrian people. that would be the one that both sides have to be concerned with. >> let me ask you very briefly, do you think that the anniversary of iraq, with all this bluster from dick cheney and from rumsfeld are unrepentant. the faux pas we made their of ascribing to something that wasn't there, that makes us very careful about talking about
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chemical weapons. >> i would say yes. i would recognize that as a benefit of the iraq war. it has made us much more cautious about making these claims and deploying troops as we did in iraq. yes, definitely. >> matt and robin, thank you for joining us. the rnc is putting $10 million to reach out to minorities. i will give them advice ahead. this guy committed a personal foul last night. we will have the play-by-play coming up. [ shapiro ] at legalzoom, you can take care of virtually
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>> we have a lot more coming up on the ed show. stay tuned. rand paul is kidding himself with the latino vote. the big panel on questionable republican outreach is next. the love gov advances. and the president puts his final four picks on the board. will he choose my hoyas? all right that's a fifth-floor problem... ok. not in my house! ha ha ha! ha ha ha!
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reconcile with many of the black community view as anti-black, racist. >> that was former chairman michael steel wondering how the rnc's $10 million in outreach will be successful if the policies are offensive to minorities. let me offer some free advice off the top of my dome. let me lace you with this commentary. if you want to reach out to black and other minority voters, you've got to give up the old saw that it was the republican party that helped black folk out when the democrats were doing us in. true. but that was more than a hundred years ago. black folk fled to the democrats when they offered, that is fdr, offered the nation a new deal, and haven't looked back since. republicans you've got to get a janet jackson vibe going and answer the question what have
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you done for us lately? ever read the book when affirmative action was white? white folk have been getting the hookup forever. those who think they're self-made are taking the advantage of birth. third, if you were smart, you would exploit the fact that black folk, by and large, have conservative culture and moral values. and if you tone down that black culture is primarily about moral decay and approach black folk with respect then a lot more black folk would be willing to listen. fourth, what happened to the liberal republican? i pine for the days of nelson rockefeller or black republicans like william coleman. what about bill cohen? can we get some more of that?
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instead, we get conservatives who are simply out-of-bounds. we get insult wielding lightweights like sarah palin. and glen beck. or we get tea party partisans who are ruining our country and the republican party, by the way, by throwing fits when they can't get their way. if you want to reach out to black and other minorities, treat us like adults, respect our history. tell the truth about our own and yours as well. stop practicing stereotype mongering. stop trying to exploit immigration policies. you'd be surprised how far that could get you. let's bring in ohio state senator nina turner. >> you're from a swing state where access to the ballot box is critical.
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what would you like to say about the rnc's outreach effort? >> well, they believe that they have a branding problem. they have, they need to change their policies. you know, in other words, they didn't trick enough people last year, so they need to change their rhetoric. what they need to change, is their policies. if they want more women to vote for them, then they need to stand up for equal pay for equal work. they need to keep their noses out of women's reproductive health. if they want black people, asians and other people of color to support them, then they need to stop trying to block their vote, step on their rights in access to the ballot, make sure they are for fair immigration policies. if they want middle class people to vote for them, then they need to advocate for good paying jobs
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with health care and for a fair tax wage. but if they did something like that, you know that would make them democrats. >> in light of what senator turner has already indicated here, the rnc outreach is a $10 million effort, an evangelical thrust there. it's not the money, it's the message at issue here as senator turner has said, isn't it> >> i think it's more than just the message. ultimately, what they're saying is we want to win at any cost and we're just going to tell you what you want to hear. and it's more about showing us. and i think michael steele said it best when he said you can go into the communities, but it's not just about showing up. you can show up anytime but it's about what you do. and their actions are not measuring up. they're saying one thing and doing another. so it's more than telling us who you are, it's about showing us. they're wanting to disenfranchise black and latino voters. they are the party of the rich,
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and that's not what we are about. so it's really more about show me rather than tell me. >> given what they've already indicated, what would you do if you were sitting on an rnc planning meeting committee, what would your advice be? >> well, i'm not in the business of giving advice to republicans, but since you asked, first of all, i think what the republicans need to do is to remember that people have very long memories. and it wasn't so long ago throughout the 2012 election cycle they spent a lot of time insulting black voters, insulting hispanic voters and ignoring asian voters. this is going to be an ongoing challenge for them if they want to woo those minority voters because people don't forget. and i doesn't think they fully understand just how much damage was done through that election cycle with the rhetoric that was used. it was not lost on us when they
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made a point about obama voters being lazy, wanting free things from the government. those comments were not lost on our communities. the other issue the republican party has and what they need to address is their unwillingness to call out racism when it occurs in their party. when democrats, there was a situation recently where a liberal group made a comment about senator mcconnell's wife and progressives were very quick to condemn those statements because they had racial overtones. the republicans have got to be willing when people in their party say something sexist or racist to condemn it and push those type of people out of the party. and they seem unwilling to do that. >> in light of that, senator, tell us here, exactly your response when you saw that videotape, i'm sure you saw it at the cpac where there was a
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interaction. is that indicative of what you think is the problem here going on between those who are trying to reach out when they haven't even converted those within their own party as to the need for an enlightened racial policy? >> i was mortified. they need to get real, but oftentimes, when you're dealing with the republican party, you know, my grandmother said you can put truth in the river five days after a lie, truth is going to catch up. and the fact that somebody would make such a flip comment about frederick douglas and his need to thank his slave master for room and board, they are out of touch. if you want people to vote for you, change your policies or switch your party to democrats. but we will know the tree by the fruit that it bears. that is what the good book says. and we know that the fruit of the republican tree is rotten to the core. >> here's more from michael
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steele. >> you've got to reconcile how people feel about your policies, not just the fact that you're going to show up. you can show up anytime. it's what you say and what you do when you get there that matters most to people. >> what part of the republican party's economic message is appealing these days? they're trying to make an outreach predicated upon an economic one. then what is the economic position? is it the, you know, is it the budget of ryan? i doubt. is it some other kind of thing that they've been withholding from us? what do you think the answer would be? and why does it make sense to them is this. >> i don't know what the answer would be. why it makes it makes sense to them, you know, i can't really speak to that. a lot of the cuts they are talking about hurt african-american and latino communities as well as elderly citizens.
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i don't know that the economic policies that they're looking at really benefit anyone. and when you talk about them being the party of the rich or them seeming that way, that kind of speaks to that point, i think, of them protecting corporate interests and things of that nature but not willing to stand up for the average joe or jane. so i don't know what that answer is. but maybe we could get one of them to tell us. >> exactly right. i don't think they're able to frame an answer any better than what you've done here tonight. ohio state senator, thank you so much for joining us here tonight. >> will the house seat be a race between a comedian's sister . [ male announcer ] book ahead and save up to 20 percent at doubletree.com, so you can sit back, relax and enjoy. doubletree by hilton. where the little things mean everything.
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men when i was up there. really nice guys. but i'm going to have to go to ohio state. michigan against florida. who get to the final four? >> this is a great game, but i think indiana is going to pull it out. >> president obama's bracket is all set for march madness as the ncaa basketball tournament tips off tomorrow. he advances indiana and louisville to the title game. >> for the championship, i'm going back to the big ten. i think it's indiana's year. >> wow. >> there you have it. the president is going back to indiana, as michael jackson sang.
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president obama's filled out a bracket on espn every year since he's been president obama. and every year right-wingers freak out because president obama fills out a bracket. john boehner retweeted the gop conference, can clutch with his brackets, late with his budgets. he linked his video for filling out a bracket. >> i think it's a disgrace and a joke that the ncaa didn't put us in the tournament. if you ask me it's a bunch of liberal socialism. you can laugh all you want, but it's the truth. and your party's partially responsible for it. >> i promise that was not a horse from the kentucky derby. we should point out ashley judd, who's eyeing mitch mcconnell's
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seat, is a big kentucky fan too. so chester may want to rethink his conspiracy theory. let's turn to mike wise for the washington post. mike, before we move on to the tournament, what's your reaction to the right wing freaking out over obama every year when he does his bracket? >> the time it took for senator boehner to actually put that tweet together, the time he could have been working on the sequestration problem, it's ridiculous. you know what i love about this president, and irrespective of my politics, he actually understands that our self-esteem shouldn't be tied to our work. this president is saying it. >> i got a beef with him. i mean, he chose my hoyas, maybe it was in the final eight. i don't know if he got them in the elite eight, but we don't get to the final four? come on, mr. president. >> filling out a bracket is one thing. did he do it well? no.

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